Don’t get me wrong, I visit “the House the Mouse built” at least once every year. This time of year I attend the Food and Wine Festival at EPCOT (Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow) as it coincides with my wedding anniversary. I make my reservations through the Disney World Central Reservations line.
This time however I got a bit of a surprise. The IVR system is voice activated now and combines reservations for Walt Disney World and Disneyland. In addition, the IVR asks “why you are calling?” When I responded “reservations inquiry” (as I wanted to inquiry about resort reservations) the system said “Oh, Dining Reservations” and proceeded down the wrong track. Some will say I am at fault for not being explicit, but who is the customer here? Apparently, I have to adjust to their system.
So, I call back adjusting my response to fit their system.
Me: Resort reservation inquiry
IVR: OK, Resort reservations (not really what I wanted as we’ll see later) What would you like to do? Would you like a new, modify, . . . or ask a question?
Me: Ask a question.
IVR: Are you calling about a Disney Vacation package?
Me: No (wasn’t sure how to answer this, I was afraid of the response “maybe”).
IVR: Does your party have 8 or more people?
Have you been to Walt Disney World before?
IVR: Have you visited at least once since 2004?
IVR: Have you visited 5 or more times in your lifetime?
IVR: OK, please enter your resort reservation number.
Me (to myself): Oops haven’t deciphered the new system yet, resort reservation inquiry = existing reservation . . . hang-up.
When I eventually reach an agent on the phone, they want more information about me and my family. This must be CRM at work . . . you know, more intrusive. I am not sure I got the “specialist” I was promised, but I eventually got the information I needed . . . about 60 minutes later.
More entrapping technology that adds no value to the customer, way too many branches. And a perceived 5 – 10 minute phone conversation turns into almost an hour with two call backs. This IVR system neither saves money or improves service.
- How many misroute themselves?
- How many people would give up after the first 2 calls?
Unknown and unknowable, but the cost accountants think putting off customer demand or self-routing saves money.
I have better, systems thinking call center management and IVR solutions. These are counter-intuitive, but would save Disney (and any other service organization) huge sums of money. The steps are:
- Understand customer demand and the variety posed by customers.
- Get measures associated with these demands.
- Design against demand.
In many cases, we find no need for an IVR system . . . a management paradox. Also (a free-be for Disney), combining Disney World and Disney land call center calls doesn’t necessarily decrease costs and in most cases, increases them. This step-by-step method will help lower costs profoundly and increase customer satisfaction.
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How frustrating for you and for ‘Disney’, that thing that is the essence of what Walt Disney created and other susatined and developed. What has happened to you is not ‘Disney’. It is the actions of one misguided executive, doing his best, but misled. My point is that companies don’t do anything. Only people do things, usually with the best of intentions and often on the basis of misperception. The good news is that it can be easier (not much, but a little easier) to get people to see and do things differently than ‘companies’
ahhh! The coaching bend, if we just coach people the right way. Certainly changing behaviors is part of changing the system. One must unlearn and relearn to improve systems. As customers of these systems we really don’t care about the who, we care about the company that delivers the service end-to-end from our perspective. The behavior in any organization is not (typically) one individual, it is an entire system of thinking and beliefs. Focus this thinking and beliefs on the customer, instead of the financials and costs fall. Focus on the financials and costs rise. Blaming the individual does not fix the system.